tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3076725205410370436.post4326592315240708794..comments2024-01-29T10:16:00.995+00:00Comments on CALLED TO THE BAR : Ambiguity about bottle-conditioned beerAdrian Tierney-Joneshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05421802854011395300noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3076725205410370436.post-57037828995076004192010-07-30T11:40:42.921+01:002010-07-30T11:40:42.921+01:00Ben you’re right about Brakespear, I do remember i...Ben you’re right about Brakespear, I do remember it being pretty good, but I once did a tasting of Hen’s Tooth for Caterer & Hotelkeeper with Mark Dorber at the White Horse and it was blooming awful.Adrian Tierney-Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05421802854011395300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3076725205410370436.post-77780816096312886222010-07-30T11:02:24.611+01:002010-07-30T11:02:24.611+01:00Brakespeare's Organic used to be an excellent ...Brakespeare's Organic used to be an excellent sub-5% BCA - it tasted like a good fresh pint of cask bitter. It's pasteurised and characterless these days.<br />Hen's Tooth is one of the best - one of Greene King's few decent products.Bennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3076725205410370436.post-22500130741211953852010-07-29T18:54:43.292+01:002010-07-29T18:54:43.292+01:00We need a bottle of Ratcliff mouldering away in th...We need a bottle of Ratcliff mouldering away in the background somewhere - potentially voiced by James Alexander Gordon.Velky Alhttp://www.fuggled.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3076725205410370436.post-45296282180580528842010-07-29T18:26:42.008+01:002010-07-29T18:26:42.008+01:00Ok you’ve set a challenge
Alliance — David Baddiel...Ok you’ve set a challenge<br />Alliance — David Baddiel<br />Deus — Roger Moore<br />Fuller’s — Brian Blessed<br />Orval — Alan Clark MP<br />Mikeller It’s Alive — Kenneth Branagh in those Swedish dramas<br />Thomas Hardy — Thomas Hardy on His Master’s Voice, probably reading one of his poems (did you known that there was a persistent rumour that the cat ate his heart after the doc had taken it out to be buried apart from the body)<br />I’m off for a drinkAdrian Tierney-Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05421802854011395300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3076725205410370436.post-675415229216083392010-07-29T17:31:58.327+01:002010-07-29T17:31:58.327+01:00Voices:
Fullers Vintage - David Jason
Thomas Hard...Voices:<br /><br />Fullers Vintage - David Jason<br />Thomas Hardy - Bill Nighy<br />J.W. Lees - William Tarmey<br />Third Coast Old Ale - Aretha Franklin<br />Eggenberg - Franziska WeiszAlistair Reecehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15929927359428659775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3076725205410370436.post-56322996986065226732010-07-29T16:57:48.030+01:002010-07-29T16:57:48.030+01:00Aardman: little plasticine men in 1950s working cl...Aardman: little plasticine men in 1950s working class clobber talking about the days when mild was tuppence a pint and was served with all the cheese you could eat — that would be the ancient bottle of Abbot Ale I bought just to display — it was 5p and reminded me of my first beers when living in Cambridge in the late 70s.Adrian Tierney-Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05421802854011395300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3076725205410370436.post-48369466538878659582010-07-29T16:34:34.366+01:002010-07-29T16:34:34.366+01:00God alone knows what is going through the mind of ...God alone knows what is going through the mind of the Eggenburg 23 as the Consecrator rants on about all grain purity. I am thinking more Aardman than Pixar mind.Velky Alhttp://www.fuggled.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3076725205410370436.post-54738312694402087512010-07-29T15:33:59.480+01:002010-07-29T15:33:59.480+01:00And what about the hi-faulting babble emanating fr...And what about the hi-faulting babble emanating from the five year old Deus stuck on its lonesome between a brace of Thornbridge Alliances and a 2005 Trafalger Ale from Gale’s — this is getting like Toy Story, Beer Story, in which the bottles have a rip when Andy goes out of the room, i think it’s got legs, I’m off to Hollywood with a pitch…I’m be like one of those blokes in the Player.Adrian Tierney-Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05421802854011395300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3076725205410370436.post-59194480888461892022010-07-29T13:56:47.230+01:002010-07-29T13:56:47.230+01:00I am not sure my Third Coast Old Ale really unders...I am not sure my Third Coast Old Ale really understands the Fuller's Vintages, and the look of bafflement when Thomas Hardy gets going is remarkable! J.W. Lees just kind of sits there dreaming of cloth caps and whippets....Alistair Reecehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15929927359428659775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3076725205410370436.post-1026591637793927112010-07-29T11:44:03.845+01:002010-07-29T11:44:03.845+01:00Velky, you could be right, I have a bottle of Otte...Velky, you could be right, I have a bottle of Otter Creek’s Quercus Vitus Humulus slumbering away in my cellar, a veritable Sleeping Beauty that will not see the bright sunlight of Exmoor for at least a year — already I hear it chattering away with the Thomas Hardys and other assorted creatures of the dark.Adrian Tierney-Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05421802854011395300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3076725205410370436.post-91685035030442277242010-07-27T20:37:52.359+01:002010-07-27T20:37:52.359+01:00Perhaps the States and its love affair with high-o...Perhaps the States and its love affair with high-octane beers is the perfect place for bottle conditioning?<br /><br />I have a few bottles of Bell's Third Coast Old Ale which are BC and have been sitting the cellar for nearly a year already.Velky Alhttp://www.fuggled.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3076725205410370436.post-66221883005866456932010-07-27T17:27:08.719+01:002010-07-27T17:27:08.719+01:00Curmudegon —that’s my experince of below 5%-ers bu...Curmudegon —that’s my experince of below 5%-ers but I am willing to try Tyson’s suggestion<br />Orm — I think it’s the case that you have to be b/c to get the RAIB desingation.<br />Ed — good point<br />Martyn — I’m sure it’s lovely but I’m culturally and genetically engineering not to like liver, along with semalina, tripe, brawn and John Smith. <br />alesto lagers — have Two-Hearted in 1001 Beers, Randy M wrote the review<br />The BN — another good point<br />Veljy — yeah but not if you had the hit and missness of over here.Adrian Tierney-Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05421802854011395300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3076725205410370436.post-67294340056759090612010-07-27T15:07:45.672+01:002010-07-27T15:07:45.672+01:00Ah the agonies of excess eh? I would love more bot...Ah the agonies of excess eh? I would love more bottle conditioned beers over here in the States!Alistair Reecehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15929927359428659775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3076725205410370436.post-7085872816061705822010-07-27T12:50:59.257+01:002010-07-27T12:50:59.257+01:00I'm wondering how many home brewers there are ...I'm wondering how many home brewers there are among the commentators here. I've had <i>plenty</i> of excellent bottle-conditioned beers of all strengths, but most have come from batches of around 20L. It could be it's much harder to do well on a commercial scale.The Beer Nuthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14105708522526153528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3076725205410370436.post-77305425513593335592010-07-27T12:22:39.723+01:002010-07-27T12:22:39.723+01:00I've just found this excellent post about BCAs...I've just found this excellent post about BCAs from Paul Bailey, contains a lot of food for thought including the CAMRA/real ale issue:<br /><br />http://baileysbeerblog.blogspot.com/2010/03/bottle-conditioned-beers.htmlBaron Ormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16440684094621860149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3076725205410370436.post-74549999716125126782010-07-27T06:53:37.590+01:002010-07-27T06:53:37.590+01:00I half-agree with you Mr Tierney, but I'm not ...I half-agree with you Mr Tierney, but I'm not sure it's to do with strength. Mind you, I'm not sure exactly what it's about - some sort of voodoo perhaps?ZakAveryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01794154105596597019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3076725205410370436.post-11715143013042470172010-07-27T06:23:04.296+01:002010-07-27T06:23:04.296+01:00I am trying to think the last sub 5% bottle condit...I am trying to think the last sub 5% bottle conditioned beer I have had but just can't come up with anything. So I cannot disagree with you... Bell's pretty much bottle conditions all of their ales and Two Hearted is probably the best bottle conditioned beer you can have.alestolagershttp://alestolagers.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3076725205410370436.post-7439208272076914742010-07-26T23:12:34.514+01:002010-07-26T23:12:34.514+01:00I'll do you liver and onions one day, Adrian -...I'll do you liver and onions one day, Adrian - dredge fresh liver in flour, ground black and ground cumin, fry in a hot pan briefly until cooked through but still slightly pink, serve with fried onions, new potatoes and peas from the pod, serve with Theakston's Old Peculier. (Leave out the last bit if under 12.)Martyn Cornellhttp://zythophile.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3076725205410370436.post-12072420907194378122010-07-26T22:58:47.746+01:002010-07-26T22:58:47.746+01:00I've had an awful lot of crap bottle condition...I've had an awful lot of crap bottle conditioned beers from micros too. Even if they're not infected they tend to be over carbonated, which really doesn't do anything for the flavour of weak beers. <br /><br />Still, there are some good ones out there, but the difference in taste between a decent bottle conditioned beer and a decent artificially carbonated bottled beer isn't as big as the difference between cask and keg draught beer.Edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13844169940650659196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3076725205410370436.post-47463568248916526862010-07-26T22:52:48.234+01:002010-07-26T22:52:48.234+01:00I think that is a wide sweeping statement. There a...I think that is a wide sweeping statement. There are plenty of poor BCAs (RAIB whatever you call them) but I don't think you can simply judge them by strength. I've had plenty of bad 5% and over bottle conditioned beers and some excellent sub-5% beers.<br /><br />If you want to try a brilliant sub 5% BCA, try Marble Manchester Bitter. It's 4.2% and gets rave reviews.Sat In A Pubhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08123038980796000837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3076725205410370436.post-51539970269305649982010-07-26T22:51:35.653+01:002010-07-26T22:51:35.653+01:00Is the problem because we have people BCing their ...Is the problem because we have people BCing their ales as it's a sign of 'craft beer'?<br /><br />Does it have to be BC for CAMRA to call it real ale?<br /><br />I agree about the Young's & Thornbridge stuff those, never had a bad bottle of their excellent beers.Baron Ormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16440684094621860149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3076725205410370436.post-62021255047550787862010-07-26T22:42:31.708+01:002010-07-26T22:42:31.708+01:00In view it just doesn't work with beers under ...In view it just doesn't work with beers under 5%. I've had so many disappointing BCAs from micro-breweries that I now avoid them like the plague - either as flat as a fluke or spurting everywhere, and some won't drop bright despite weeks in a cupboard. There's a bit of Emperor's New Clothes about it, to be honest.Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.com